Friday, 5 June 2009
Lucas Neill Obituary
He came, he saw he conga'red - often trying to start the dance by grabbing an opponent by the hips from behind as he burst into the box - recall that penalty against Birmingham! But overall, will Neill be remembered positively or negatively after his two and a bit seasons with the club?
There's no doubting Neill's importance to the Great Escape. The Turds apologists claim that the manager saved us from relegation but there is no doubt in my mind that the inspiration on the field came from Tevez and the leadership off it from Lucas. I well remember the build up to the Charlton game, with Pardew talking about "opportunity" and Curbishley saying time and time and time again, "We have to find a win from somewhere." Pardew instilled hope whilst Curbishley communicated desperation. The 4-0 reverse we suffered was an accurate measure of the influence of the respective managers. After that defeat and the surrendering of two two goal leads against Tootatthem, I couldn't see a way back and nor could Curbishley. The mantra became, "We have to retain hope until it is hopeless" but you could tell from the manager's crushed demeanor that he retained all the hope of Susan Boyle in a beauty contest.
Then along came that Blackburn game and the awards of the goal that never was and a dubious penalty. We won 2-1 and suddenly there was hope. Thanks to Neill. For it was Neill, not Curbishley, who told the world in the aftermath of the game that the Great Escape was on, that hope wasn't forlorn, that there were plenty of points to be played for and that the team was good enough to claim them. I listened to Neill's words and suddenly I dared to hope; I heard Curbishley and I wanted to open my wrists. Neill's glass was half full of champagne, Curbishley's half empty of steaming urine.
Along with Green, Noble, Tevez and the centre back pairing of Ferdinand & Collins, Neill was a giant as we closed in on the most incredible resurrection since Jesus rolled away that stone! Curbishley had killed the patient; but Neill resuscitated it and kept the heart pumping! Without him, we would have sunk without trace.
What followed, however, was a strangely mixed bag. Overall, Neill was poor in 2007 / 08. It was a mediocre season all round and Neill was the grand master of mediocrity, looking slow and undisciplined in far too many games. Remember City's Petrov ripping him apart at Upton Park? Remember his walkabout performance at St James' Park? Remember him going AWOL at the Emirates? Remember him diving in on the half way line against the Mancs before Ronaldo's goal? Remember that penalty against Birmingham? And remember those three consecutive 4-0 reverses? The big question was why he was still in the team. Most agreed he had become a liability and some concurred with me that he was only in the side because Curbishley was scared of him. For Brown and Darling today, read Curbishley and Neill then.
And of course that power was confirmed when Neill led the dressing room revolt against Curbishley in the early weeks of this season. I am still unclear what it was that turned the captain against his manager, but whatever it was, Neill showed all the loyalty of Brutus to his Caesar. "Et tu Lucas, then fall Curbishley!"
In fact, Neill has played superbly this season. Clarke has sorted him out defensively and Zola has used his leadership qualities to the full. He wasn't my choice for Hammer of the Year in the end, but he had a strong case, stronger I believe than the eventual winner Parker.
So, hero or zero? In many respects, Neill was a brilliant signing; along with Upson, the best that Curbishley made. But the big problem with Neill was always his greed. We only landed him because of that greed and unfortunately that greed then became the yardstick for others. Bellyache, Parker, Ljungberg, Dyer - they benchmarked their value against a slightly better than ordinary right back and said, "I'll have a bit of what he's having thanks." And Turds and Egg were stupidly happy to oblige.
Neill has walked out on West Ham but will not join the rogues gallery of Ince, Defoe, Reo-Coker and Bellyache. He came, he saw, he cash-rolled - but he saved our souls in the process. I will remember him with affection.
Well said. I think we will find it hard to find as good a leader but concede there are certainly better technicians. I genuinely hope he has a change of heart once he realises what he is potentially missing.
ReplyDeleteI take my hat off to him .... he has been a true gladiator for our beloved claret and blue ....
ReplyDeleteI am not convinced that the club has got it right .... we let him go over his wages and the club are reportedly looking to pay £5 million for Faux pas mk2.
He has turned a corner this season and can take much credit fot the improvents in Tomkins ... he has been a good skipper and is proven premiership quality.
Alas having said that .... long live the King .... West Ham United go on ... COYI
He came for the money and he appears to have left for the money.
ReplyDeleteHe's been ok as captain, nothing more than what you would expect really. The Great Escape? For me, it was about Tevez, Noble and Ginge, not Lucas, and not (as a Curbs apologist) about Curbs. He had a useful pass on him and I liked his attacking instincts, but he was never quick enough at right back and that's how I'll remember him.
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ReplyDeleteI'll give you his contribution to the great escape, but last season he was a total liability. As for "Neill has played superbly this season" I beg to differ. He has certainly improved towards the end but if it wasn't for Behrami doing half his job for him we would have been in big trouble. It's not just me that thinks he's poor, it's every other premiership team. They have attacked down our right flank all season and truth be told we could have had no complaints if he had conceded several penalties. Even when Ilunga in his excitement at wearing the claret and blue insisted on waving to his girlfriend in the crowd every time he was put under pressure, opposition teams failed to take advantage of it because they were too busy concentrating on the liabilty that is Lucas Neill. A good captain certainly and probably a good man to have in the trenches with you, his best performances were when we were up against it, either the great escape or the crippling injury scenario at the end of this season. But I won't miss Lucas Neill, I could entertain a case for him at centre back but you need to be much more mobile at full back.
ReplyDeleteMore vitriol for Curbs I see, could you just explain to me why you don't like him? ;)
LOL Marty. It goes back to when Curbishley walked out on us as a player following...
ReplyDeleteInteresting the way Neill divides opinion. I can't disagree with any of the points made, even when they contradict each other. But Marty, whilst I accept that every Prem manager has targeted our right flank because of Neill's lack of pace, how many goals have we actually conceded because they policy has been successful? The answer is, not many. I fully accept your Behrami point but he was doing the same job to protect Faubert - that is the way Clarke sets up the team, with the priority on building a defensive wall which can springboard forward once possession has been surrendered by a frustrated opposition. Chelsea did it when Jose was manager didn't they?
Where's the contradiction?
ReplyDeleteWe've been strong defensively this season but a lot of the goals we've conceded have involved Neill and he has been very lucky not to have conceded more penalties. If Clarke sets the side up for Behrami to cover for Neill, why doesn't he have someone on the left covering for Ilunga who exhibits more attacking inclination but still manages to carry out his defensive duties unaided?
Two different points well made Marty. I suspect that LBM was playing on the right to provide defensive cover for Lucas too, forcing Zola to pick Stanislas on the wrong flank because, as a kid, he couldn't be trusted to maintain defensive discipline.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, identify the goals that we actually conceded because of Neill and attacks down our right flank - I can name you half a dozen from the season before (I do in the article) but I'm struggling to do so for the season just gone. The goal against Newcastle (Carrol's header) would be one, but that was Behrami's fault, he followed the Newcastle winger even though Neill was in position, and left Duff free for the pull back. I'm sure there were others but I'm struggling at the moment to recall them. I can remember lots of occasions when Neill provided superb cover behind his centre backs, clearing crosses coming in from our left.
So the management were so impressed by our captain's commanding defensive example that when Behrami was unavailable to hold his hand he felt it necessary to ask a teenage debutant to play out of position to accomodate him. I've obviously got it all wrong; give the man his £50,000 a week!!
ReplyDeleteSeriously, that is a good point about LBM and it hadn't occurred to me, but I suspect there may be some truth in it. I have tended to feel that Zola likes wingers to play on the wrong side so that they do cut inside all the time, I assume with the idea that the full backs overlap. His aversion to using the full width of the field is also something that worries me, even in the youth and reserves, Edgar and Kearns are playing much more tucked in or even at the point of the diamond.
I'm in agreement with Marty. Neill seemed to be doing ok, until his minder got injured. With Valon McCann out of the side he looked exposed again. Having said that, I've seen worse fullbacks (Minto, McQueen etc.). He seems a decent enough fella and I'm sure he is effective behind he scenes. However, with the wages we pay Neill we are entitled to far more for our money. Lucas Neill (out of 10); Captaincy 8, Playing Performance 6, VFM 4.
ReplyDeleteSo Marty and Den, identify the goals that came from Lucas being "done" whilst Behrami wasn't in the side. I'm honestly struggling myself, and I was one of Neill's earliest critics, calling him a liability well ahead of the crowd.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your ratings Den except perhaps for VFM. What figure do you put on staying in the Prem?
My VFM was based on the basic salary usually required to secure a decent Premiership full-back.
ReplyDeleteVFM is then 1 Den!
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