Wednesday, 6 October 2010

Full Transcript of David Sullivan's Rivers of Blood Speech


I carry below the full transcript of David Sullivan's speech regarding the proposed move of Tottenham to the Olympic Stadium.


"The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature.

One is that by the very order of things such evils are not demonstrable until they have occurred: at each stage in their onset there is room for doubt and for dispute whether they be real or imaginary. By the same token, they attract little attention in comparison with current troubles, which are both indisputable and pressing: whence the besetting temptation of all politics to concern itself with the immediate present at the expense of the future.

Above all, people are disposed to mistake predicting troubles for causing troubles and even for desiring troubles: "If only," they love to think, "if only people wouldn't talk about it, it probably wouldn't happen."

Perhaps this habit goes back to the primitive belief that the word and the thing, the name and the object, are identical.

At all events, the discussion of future grave but, with effort now, avoidable evils is the most unpopular and at the same time the most necessary occupation for the politician. Those who knowingly shirk it deserve, and not infrequently receive, the curses of those who come after.

A week or two ago I fell into conversation with a constituent, a middle-aged, quite ordinary working man employed in one of our borough's betting shops.

After a sentence or two about the weather, he suddenly said: "If I had the money to go, I wouldn't stay in Newham." I made some deprecatory reply to the effect that even this government wouldn't last for ever; but he took no notice, and continued: "I have three children, all of them been through grammar school and two of them married now, with family. I shan't be satisfied till I have seen them all settled elsewhere. In this borough in 15 or 20 years' time the Tottenham fans will have the whip hand over the West Ham fans."

I can already hear the chorus of execration. How dare I say such a horrible thing? How dare I stir up trouble and inflame feelings by repeating such a conversation?

The answer is that I do not have the right not to do so. Here is a decent, ordinary fellow West Ham fan, who in broad daylight in my own borough saying to me, his club Chairman, that his borough will not be worth living in for his children.

I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking - not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history.

In 15 or 20 years, on present trends, there will be in this borough three and a half million Tottenham fans and their descendants. That is not my figure. That is the official figure given to parliament by the spokesman of the Registrar General's Office.

There is no comparable official figure for the year 2100, but it must be in the region of five to seven million, approximately one-tenth of the whole population of Britain, and approaching that of Greater London itself. Of course, it will not be evenly distributed from Plaistow to Stratford and from Canning Town to East Ham. Whole areas, postal codes and streets across Newham will be occupied by sections of the Tottenham fan base and Tottenham fan base-descended population.

As time goes on, the proportion of this total who are Tottenham fans, those born in Newham, who arrived here by exactly the same route as the rest of us, will rapidly increase. Already by 2025 the native-born would constitute the majority. It is this fact which creates the extreme urgency of action now, of just that kind of action which is hardest for politicians to take, action where the difficulties lie in the present but the evils to be prevented or minimised lie several parliaments ahead.

The natural and rational first question with a borough confronted by such a prospect is to ask: "How can its dimensions be reduced?" Granted it be not wholly preventable, can it be limited, bearing in mind that numbers are of the essence: the significance and consequences of an alien element introduced into a borough or population are profoundly different according to whether that element is 1 per cent or 10 per cent.

The answers to the simple and rational question are equally simple and rational: by stopping, or virtually stopping, further inflow, and by promoting the maximum outflow.
It almost passes belief that at this moment 20 or 30 additional Tottenham supporting children are arriving in Plaistow alone every week - and that means 15 or 20 additional families a decade or two hence. Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad. We must be mad, literally mad, as a borough to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 Tottenham supporting dependants, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the Tottenham fan base-descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. We actually permit unmarried Tottenham fans to immigrate into Newham for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancés whom they have never seen.

Let no one suppose that the flow of dependants will automatically tail off. On the contrary, even at the present admission rate of only 5,000 a year by voucher, there is sufficient for a further 25,000 dependants per annum ad infinitum, without taking into account the huge reservoir of existing relations in this borough - and I am making no allowance at all for fraudulent entry. In these circumstances nothing will suffice but that the total inflow for settlement should be reduced at once to negligible proportions, and that the necessary legislative and administrative measures be taken without delay.

I turn to re-emigration. If all immigration of Tottenham fans ended tomorrow, the rate of growth of the first generation and second generation Tottenham population would be substantially reduced, but the prospective size of this element in the population would still leave the basic character of the national danger unaffected. This can only be tackled while a considerable proportion of the total still comprises persons who entered this borough during the last ten years or so.

Hence the urgency of implementing encouragement of re-emigration of Tottenham fans.

Nobody can make an estimate of the numbers which, with generous assistance, would choose either to return to their borough of origin or to go to other countries anxious to receive the manpower and the skills they represent.

Nobody knows, because no such policy has yet been attempted. I can only say that, even at present, Tottenham fans in my own constituency from time to time come to me, asking if I can find them assistance to return home. If such a policy were adopted and pursued with the determination which the gravity of the alternative justifies, the resultant outflow could appreciably alter the prospects.

The third element of the policy is that all who are in this borough as citizens should be equal before the law and that there shall be no discrimination or difference made between them by public authority. We will have no "first-class citizens" and "second-class citizens." This does not mean that the Tottenham fan and his descendent should be elevated into a privileged or special class or that the citizen should be denied his right to discriminate in the management of his own affairs between one fellow-citizen and another or that he should be subjected to imposition as to his reasons and motive for behaving in one lawful manner rather than another.

There could be no grosser misconception of the realities than is entertained by those who vociferously demand legislation as they call it "against discrimination", whether they be leader-writers of the same kidney and sometimes on the same newspapers which year after year in the 1930s tried to blind this country to the rising peril which confronted it, or archbishops who live in palaces, faring delicately with the bedclothes pulled right up over their heads. They have got it exactly and diametrically wrong.

The discrimination and the deprivation, the sense of alarm and of resentment, lies not with the Tottenham fans but with those among whom they have come and are still coming.

This is why to allow Tottenham to occupy the Olympic Stadium is to risk throwing a match on to gunpowder. The kindest thing that can be said about those who propose and support it is that they know not what they do.

Nothing is more misleading than comparison between the Tottenham fans in Newham and the American Negro. The Negro population of the United States, which was already in existence before the United States became a nation, started literally as slaves and were later given the franchise and other rights of citizenship, to the exercise of which they have only gradually and still incompletely come. The Tottenham fan came to Newham as a full citizen, to a borough which knew no discrimination between one citizen and another, and he entered instantly into the possession of the rights of every citizen, from the vote to free treatment under the National Health Service.

Whatever drawbacks attended the Tottenham fans arose not from the law or from public policy or from administration, but from those personal circumstances and accidents which cause, and always will cause, the fortunes and experience of one man to be different from another's.

But while, to the Tottenham fan, entry to this borough was admission to privileges and opportunities eagerly sought, the impact upon the existing population was very different. For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own borough.

They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the Tottenham supporting worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the West Ham supporting worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. They now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by act of parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent-provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions.

In the hundreds upon hundreds of letters I received when I last spoke on this subject two or three months ago, there was one striking feature which was largely new and which I find ominous. All Members of Parliament are used to the typical anonymous correspondent; but what surprised and alarmed me was the high proportion of ordinary, decent, sensible people, writing a rational and often well-educated letter, who believed that they had to omit their address because it was dangerous to have committed themselves to paper to a Member of Parliament agreeing with the views I had expressed, and that they would risk penalties or reprisals if they were known to have done so. The sense of being a persecuted minority which is growing among ordinary West Ham supporting people in the areas of the borough which are affected is something that those without direct experience can hardly imagine.

I am going to allow just one of those hundreds of people to speak for me:

“Eight years ago in a respectable street in West Ham a house was sold to a Tottenham fan. Now only one Hammer (a woman old-age pensioner) lives there. This is her story. She lost her husband and both her sons in the war. So she turned her seven-roomed house, her only asset, into a boarding house. She worked hard and did well, paid off her mortgage and began to put something by for her old age. Then the Tottenham fans moved in. With growing fear, she saw one house after another taken over. The quiet street became a place of noise and confusion. Regretfully, her West Ham tenants moved out.

“The day after the last one left, she was awakened at 7am by two Tottenham fans who wanted to use her 'phone to contact their employer. When she refused, as she would have refused any stranger at such an hour, she was abused and feared she would have been attacked but for the chain on her door. Tottenham families have tried to rent rooms in her house, but she always refused. Her little store of money went, and after paying council tax, she has less than £2 per week. “She went to apply for a rate reduction and was seen by a young girl, who on hearing she had a seven-roomed house, suggested she should let part of it. When she said the only people she could get were Tottenham fans, the girl said, "Prejudice won't get you anywhere in this borough." So she went home.

“The telephone is her lifeline. Her family pay the bill, and help her out as best they can. Tottenham fans have offered to buy her house - at a price which the prospective landlord would be able to recover from his tenants in weeks, or at most a few months. She is becoming afraid to go out. Windows are broken. She finds excreta pushed through her letter box. When she goes to the shops, she is followed by children, charming, wide-grinning Tottenham fans. They cannot speak Cockney, but one word they know. "Anti Semite," they chant.  This woman is convinced she will go to prison. And is she so wrong? I begin to wonder.”

The other dangerous delusion from which those who are wilfully or otherwise blind to realities suffer, is summed up in the word "integration." To be integrated into a population means to become for all practical purposes indistinguishable from its other members.

Now, at all times, where there are marked physical differences, especially of club colours, integration is difficult though, over a period, not impossible. There are among the Tottenham fans who have come to live here in the last fifteen years or so, many thousands whose wish and purpose is to be integrated and whose every thought and endeavour is bent in that direction.

But to imagine that such a thing enters the heads of a great and growing majority of Tottenham fans and their descendants is a ludicrous misconception, and a dangerous one.

We are on the verge here of a change. Hitherto it has been force of circumstance and of background which has rendered the very idea of integration inaccessible to the greater part of the Tottenham population - that they never conceived or intended such a thing, and that their numbers and physical concentration meant the pressures towards integration which normally bear upon any small minority did not operate.

Now we are seeing the growth of positive forces acting against integration, of vested interests in the preservation and sharpening of club differences, with a view to the exercise of actual domination, first over fellow-North Londoners and then over the rest of the population. The cloud no bigger than a man's hand, that can so rapidly overcast the sky, has been visible recently in West Ham and has shown signs of spreading quickly. The words I am about to use, verbatim as they appeared in the local press on 17 September, are not mine, but those of a Labour Member of Parliament who was a minister in the former government:

'The Tottenham fans' campaign to maintain customs inappropriate in Newham is much to be regretted. Working in Newham, particularly in the public services, they should be prepared to accept the terms and conditions of their employment. To claim special communal rights (or should one say rites?) leads to a dangerous fragmentation within society. This communalism is a canker; whether practised by one club supporter or another it is to be strongly condemned.'

All credit to John Stonehouse for having had the insight to perceive that, and the courage to say it.

For these dangerous and divisive elements the legislation proposed in the move of Tottenham to the Olympic Stadium is the very pabulum they need to flourish. Here is the means of showing that the Tottenham fans can organise to consolidate their members, to agitate and campaign against their fellow citizens, and to overawe and dominate the rest with the legal weapons which the ignorant and the ill-informed have provided. As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood."

That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the decade.

Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal."

13 comments:

  1. Jeepers, HF - it's 1145pm, I've had a couple of drinks and been at work all day!
    On first reading I haven't got the first clue wtf you're on about and I like to think of myself as having a modicum of intellect.
    I shall come back to this post again I think when I've got a spare hour or so.
    Don't slacken off on the dosage, mate!

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  2. bore off enochfan you racist bastard

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  3. No fan of Enoch. Just pointing out the parallels with Sullivan's "there will be riots" speech. Forty years later and Sullivan is trying to win an argument using the same blood in the streets style speech. That obviously went oover your head though.

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  4. Lot of cuttin' an' pastin' going on on this bog (sorry blog). Run out of things ta say, hey bud?

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  5. As they say, there's nothing new in the world. I think this post says a lot actually.

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  6. Feck me HF, you could have abridged it a little and still got the same point across!

    Quite amusing, why is it only a few of those who leave comments here understand the tongue-in-cheek slant of this blog??

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  7. LOL I haven't read it for years mate. I found it interesting to tell the truth and felt an abridgement would be inappropriate.

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  8. ok, ok - I get it. Honestly!
    Yea, tend to agree that it is just a tad sensationalist of Sullivan to try to engender a sense of fear in the authorities if the Totts bid is allowed to be ultimately successful. If nothing else, it belies his own weakness and insecurity. True belief in the bid should yield a positive and stronger rebuttal of our rivals, not a negative argument based upon fear. I think that he does our bid no service in this approach.
    Agree with Albert that posters like 1745 really do need to seek a brain transplant, albeit that it took me a night's sleep to work out what the hell you were driving at!

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  9. See you've been on the org. Good post.

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  10. Tho it pains me to say it, you were right about the org. Now I've dipped my toes inm I'm actually quite enjoying the place and it is a joy not to have to put up with the poxy thumbs up/dowm thing on WHTID which has turned the site into a mockery of its former self, at times. I also like the way you can create a post on there.
    Anywaysup, will continue to comment on your blog with your permission old bean, assuming I can understand what you're on about. You have a strikingly original style which certainly rocks my boat, HF.

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  11. It's a bit too long winded to work as an 'Enoch' parody though - I much prefer the snappier items. Also always enjoy the inevitable 'anonymous' responses from the 'true fans' who love to slag you off as a closet Spurs fan..... You know, the ones who all moved away from Newham years ago, because of too many 'foreigners' and are always talking about 'their' 'beloved' club...none so blind as those who won't see I guess.

    gateman

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  12. thumbs up / thumbs down?! that's from an adult? get a grip / get a life and where is the bright shiny new site that you and the other "head" master Matthew promised us?

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