Thursday, 24 March 2011

Read this & see Grant in a new light!

Follow the link and read this article. If you don't respect Grant after this, I despair!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1310980/Avram-Grant-They-told-I-like-Brooking-player-really-I-Platini--car-smashed-me.html

26 comments:

Sav said...

I am touched. But I don't see how all this makes him a great coach. This is typical from you HF. One day you viciously shit on the sincere commiserations for Parker's father by many West Ham fans. And the next, you present a story about the unfortunate young Avram Grant and you say to us, let me quote you "If you don't respect Grant after this, I despair!".

Suddenly, you have become Mr. sentimental and compassionate! Could it be because this time, as you point out in your introductory statement, it seems to back your on-going argument that Grant is great?

Hammersfan said...

I was talking about his experience as a coach actually. And the fact that he has taken a similar route into management as a certain John Lyall whose promising career as a player was cut short. So what that the guy was in a wheelchair and all the other stuff!

the headmaster said...

I tend to agree with Sav, HF. In a week when you have attracted 80+ responses to a thread which cocks a snoop at sentiment, you now post something which implores 'respect' and threatens 'despair' if this is not forthcoming. All a tad emotive, wouldn't you agree?

Hammersfan said...

That's Fanno for you. One compassionate electron here, one heartless electron there, both observed simultaneously. But then we have a Headmaster without the definite article and a headmaster with a definite article so is somebody playing silly buggers? You and Sav seem to miss the point. I was not having a go at Parker but at the hollow nature of the RIPs.

Stani Army said...

Agree Sav. This is hollow too HF

Hammersfan said...

What is hollow? The article? I do despair! Your hatred for Grant knows no bounds does it Stani?

Stani Army said...

No. See how you jump to conclusions. Surprised you haven't called me an anti-semite. Your hatred for me knows no bounds HF!

I meant your point is hollow.

Anonymous said...

I'm getting sick of this Stani bloke and his utter hatred of our manager because on his religion/nationality. Why don't you go follow the Saudi league where all of the managers/players are Muslim so you wouldn't be conflicted in having to follow a team managed by one of those evil "yahuds".

TurdsOut! said...

07:01 actually Sav in particular and Stani makes some very fair points. I have no idea who you are "anon" but I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't one of HF's many alter ego's. It's sentimental claptrap and if the Baron was a good manager - we'd have heard about it by now and we'd not have to read about it in the tabloid that is the Daily Mail.

Stani Army said...

07:01,
Er, the answer to your question is obvious, because I'm not what you say I am. Doh!

And it's funny you say I should leave and follow another league because I apparently hate Avram...you obviously can't stand me, so how about you follow your own advice? What, you didn't think of that?

See what you do HF? You plant a seed in the mind of the moron. But your lack of wisdom will never allow you to appreciate the consequences of your words or actions, as your response will prove.

John said...

I don't see any connection with this article and the Scott Parker one.This is about 'is the manager in spite of vast criticism an ok bloke'The answer has got to be yes!

Although it would probably kill off a lot of comments on this blog I still don't know why manager's do not explain to the fans after the match why they did or did not make changes. It would be a lot more interesting than the rubbish churned out each week in the so called personal messages.

Anonymous said...

as if HF knows anything about respect!

Baloo said...

The article starts out by saying that he was thrown 33m. In order to do so the bike would have been travelling in excess of 224 km/h. Being presented with this "fact" at the start of the article led me to ignore the rest. Another way to put this into perspective ... the distance from the centre spot to the sideline at the Boleyn is 34m.

Essexhammer said...

You have to admire GRANT for his spirit and drive,many a person would have curled up and died after what he went through.It's that strong character that has obviously made him a tough manager ,one able to deal with the testing times at WESTHAM.I think he will prove to be a great manager for us.

Hammersfan said...

Stani, if you saw what I filter out about you, I think you would understand what an injustice that is. There have been a number of anti Islamic racist comments which have not seen the light of day on this blog and never will. Unfortunately, many of those that disagree with your opinions couch their disagreement in language which I deem offensive to you and to other Muslims. It is galling, therefore, when you pass the sort of comments that you pass about me. Your condemnatory comments about me are allowed; those made by others about you are not. That may say something about me and my values if you think about it just a bit!

Hammersfan said...

Any idea why the Twitter feed is caput Stani?I think it is pretty inane stuff personally. However, if you want me to keep it and can cure the problem, let me know.

Stani Army said...

That's right Turds. The articles more about the man really HF. To be honest, I have nothing against the man, just the manager. And it doesnt do much for the manager. 40 years in coaching and he has achieved nothing significant. 40 years in coaching and we have to hunt the likes of Wally Downes.

And I do appreciate what you block out, as I told you in an email a while back before you even mentioned it. True? But I'm not talking about what you let through and what you keep out. I'm talking about the manner in which you leave what you write open to people being verbally attacked and accused of things. For example, do you think 07:01 would have sad that but for your comment before? And then you have to ask how much of what you block out is actually because of you HF.

Not sure what happened to the twitter. Maybe the BigMan upstairs is trying to make you sort the width out! :) All-Wise! It's up to you if you want to take it off, I'm not fussed. It gives a few useful comments now and again. I think you'll have to go through the process again though. Make sure you adjust the width in the options. I assume you still have the email? If not, let me know I'll dig it up.

Hammersfan said...

I'll delete it for now. I accept that we picked up early that Cole had been dropped but that apart it is banal. Which is the sort of trivial fare that Dale prefers!

Stani Army said...

Cool.

Surprised you given up on attracting Dale though!

Stani Army said...

You can still use this link to check it every so often though...or maybe even save the link in your sidebar, possible.

http://twitter.com/_gamesgonecrazy/lists/west-ham-players

the headmaster said...

With the definite article / minus the definite article - not sure what point you're making there HF. You will know that the IP address is the same. One is when I can be bothered to sign in with my google identity, the other not. But then you'd know that, I presume?
Since when did I imply that your post was in any way critical of Parker? It plainly isn't. I was merely making the point that you are inviting some sort of emotional engagement with our Manager via an article which talks about his misfortunes and overcoming of adversity and pointing out that this was an odd juxtaposition with your lambasting of what you judge to be hollow and ritualistic outpourings in respect of the death of Scott's father.

Hammersfan said...

I don't check out IP addresses mate. Too Big Brotherish! So many identities have been "stolen" on here, I suspected you might have been a victim too. Wrongly it seems.

Stani Army said...

I dont think blogger lists ip addresses. It was the main reason I chose wordpress when I started blogging. Doubt they have changed their policy.

Anonymous said...

so what with ip addresses - they're all different - home computer, work computer, mobile, tablet etc etc., proves nish.

Anonymous said...

13:06 tw@t - you get thrown in the air and then skid along the tarmac.....

Anonymous said...

21:20 headmaster - what happened to your blog? you know, the one that was going to be even better than WHTID? still a work in progress? just finalising the finishing touches?

I was looking forward to your wordsmithing - using words like juxtaposition, lambasting and ritualistic.

Seriously though, where is it?