Is it just a personal vendetta against Master Bates or do LUST perhaps have other motives? This self annointed "Supporter's Trust" seems to be putting its own self publicity above the best interests of the club, based on the decision to break the "news" of the collapse of the take over yesterday.
According to the YEP - an organ that must stay loyal to Bates to maintain access at Elland Road perhaps - the deal is not yet dead in the water. It is injured and bleeding, and a Great Whites Shark is circling, but the head is still above water, just, and where there's life, there's hope.
So what were LUST up to yesterday? And who and what do they know exactly? There are lots of suggestions that they are in contact with the would be new owners and they claim that others are interested in bidding for the club, but we can all play that game. Anybody could have done the sums and worked out that the exclusivity period expired yesterday; dear God, even this Southern twat posted the day before that the deal had hit an impasse and what do I know?
There's no getting away from the fact that LUST's "announcement" has cast a shadow over the club only days before the big kick off, however. Suddenly Warnock has transfer listed two players and internecine warfare has broken out. The new players will be asking what is going on, Warnock will be twitchy, players like Bechio might start wondering if he wants to hang around and the fans are all set to demonstrate against the Board. What a way to go into the new season!
But the deal isn't dead, so why did LUST suggest it was? Let's put a different spin on it. The deal is still on as the new buyers seek to iron out a few issues but the club is so confident of selling the brand that they are inviting new bidders rather than extending exclusivity. Doesn't that read better? Isn't that the responsible way of reporting the present state of affairs? So why did LUST take the most destructive tack exactly?
All these hints about having a contact with the would be buyers invite suspicion. Are LUST receiving information only, or is there a more tangible incentive for acting as a stalking horse and agent provocateur for the prospective buyers? Are we talking free lunches, trips to Bahrain, free petrol vouchers, hard cash perhaps? Wouldn't a bad start to the season and a club tearing itself apart increase the pressure on Bates to sell, forcing the price down, and wouldn't that be worth money to the mystery buyers? No allegations here, just questions that might be posed and which should be answered.
So are LUST manipulating the situation or are LUST being manipulated themselves? I really can't understand what was to be gained from yesterday's announcement if the best interests of the club are the primary concern. Maybe it is just egos at stake in the case of LUST or maybe it is something more sinister. As an organisation, they keep calling for openness from Bates, but they are holding a pack of marked cards to their own chests aren't they? Why don't LUST reveal who and what they know and why, exactly, they are in this take over loop?
Calls for clarity cut both ways don't they?
69 comments:
The first meaningful post you have ever wrote!! Also are you a Closet Leeds fan? MOT BATES OUT
Great blog! (for once) lol, makes more sense than anything i read yesterday, Tom LUFC
Absolutely agree with your bullshit today. MOT
So who gives you the low down on inside information at LUFC?, does your info come from the local cockles & mussels stall, obviously everything centres around LEEDS down your neck of the woods.
Stick to your own gay faggot squad.
MUPPET get a life you interfering tosser
Wow I cannot believe it, the first intellectual post you have ever produced with regards to Leeds United. And one I personally agree with. A member of LUST was on talksport and he was as useful as a chocolate tea pot. LUST seem to think they are big players in these talks, but when it comes down to specifics they only know as much as the next man.
TeejLUFC
I know you get a lot of negative comments from some Leeds fans but I have to say a lot of your comments seem to be well balanced and constructive. Keep it up. As for LUST, why are they given so much news column space when they are clearly not the voice of all Leeds fans and do not have any special access to information compared to other bodies such as the press. Their comments yesterday will have a bad effect on Leeds so it is a good point to ask why they did it. It is certainly time for Bates to move on. He brought a lot of financial stability to Leeds and puts us in a place where we can be taken over by a well financed new owner. I'm sure Bates will sell Leeds on soon. At the age of 80 I can't see why he'd not want to move Leeds on.
Baldie, quite sensible for you this one.
a good article with some valid questions for a change. Although i still fuckin hate you
This is your best post yet, why tell lies 2 fans they supposedly represent? They definatly have a hidden agenda imo.
Your ignorance (by the way the definition is lack of knowledge) makes me laugh. I don't like LUST but it is well known they are as anti Bates as you can get.
For once an intelligently written article... Well done hammers fan :-) totally agree it created unwanted or needed panic yesterday to a clubs whose fans are already much in need of a good break... LUST f**k off
As a Leeds fan, this guy always makes me laugh, as do the fools who blow up in the comments pages without fail. This particular post is a actually very valid and thought provoking.
I am not here to mouth off at you or anything like that because i can't be arsed. I just want to know why you write about Leeds so much on your West Ham blog? Is it simply to get more hits via newsnow to make your blog seem more impressive?? You just seemed to be obsessed with us. My other Leeds mates (im from Northern Ireland so there is only a few albeit alot more than West Ham) rarely talk about West Ham unless its about hopefully getting Nicky Maynard
Fcuk all to do with you cockend .
I really can't understand why LUST went for the 'collapse approach.' As aLeeds fan for more than 50 years I am absolutely fed up with LUST, the Bates Out mob and all the rest of the self opinionated fools who claim to know everything about the club. You are absolutely correct that LUST have created a negative atmosphere so after a six months of positive change we are heading back to where we were last season. The support for the team from the Bates haters has been non existent. If Bates left tomorrow would they be any more positive - I doubt it!
And like a panther hf springs into action. Only over 7 hours after the news broke yesterday. Thankyou for your concern and intelligent comment- oh wise one. Haven't you got it yet? These comments are posted to entertain other Leeds supporters. We are having a right laugh.You clearly choose which ones get posted,anything with abuse or spelling mistakes goes straight on. That way you can give the illusion of superiority,despite your own grammar frequently letting you down. Any comment about your personality disorder or how you neglect your family to indulge your obsession with Leeds won't be posted either. That is if your family haven't already left and disowned you.
7,500 members is hardly self appointed. The YEP is hardly a loyalist Bates rag.
The LUST aims have been transparent and have been faithful to their Vision Statement.
LUST aims are purpose are clear, emphatic and understandable.
I only wish I could say the same for you and your obsessive scribblings.
Do you have a vision or aim. If so what is it? Can you try explain what rubbishing of Leeds United has to do with WHU?
I always admired WHU brand of football as it was played till last year.
Seems absurd that you are not pre- occupied with the changes that your once admirable club has undergone.
But does that really interest You?
I quite like your posts,and this one asks a very good question. The way I see it LUST jumped at the chance to 'get in first' and claim the limelight and have got it wrong...again. Ken Bates is a prat, and a southern one at that, but this has simply played into his hands by highlighting the lack of professionalism of LUST. I just want to go to ER and support the Whites, not listen to 10 to 15 year olds chanting 'Bates out' ...perhaps they could chant 'LUST out' but I doubt it. Good post, still worried about your fixation with Leeds though!!MOT forever..
7,500 members is hardly self appointed. The YEP is hardly a loyalist Bates rag.
The LUST aims have been transparent and have been faithful to their Vision Statement.
LUST aims are purpose are clear, emphatic and understandable.
I only wish I could say the same for you and your obsessive scribblings.
Do you have a vision or aim. If so what is it? Can you try explain what rubbishing of Leeds United has to do with WHU?
I always admired WHU brand of football as it was played till last year.
Seems absurd that you are not pre- occupied with the changes that your once admirable club has undergone.
But does that really interest You?
For once, I completely agree....... what are LUST's motives... and do they actually cause damage to the club whilst trying to achieve their goals????
Well said, LUST are almost a big a menace as Bates to our club; having had the misfortune to listen to Gary Cooper being interviewed, it is quite clear he hasn't a clue what's going on or who may or may not be involved in any takeover ( if there is such a thing and i have my doubts on that score)They (LUST) are just trying to big themselves up to get more members, no Leeds supporter with a brain ( and despite your thoughts they are the vast majority) would contemplate any link with LUST. if you want the nearest thing to truth then read The Scratching Shed or Right in The Gary Kelly's and ignore anything those tossers are LUST are saying.
Someone's got a personal vendetta...
Who cares, none of it really matters
all the matters is the question of are there investors or not, LUFC or LUST cannot influence whether someone has money to invest.
I thought LUST were out of order making an announcement before the club....trying to give the impression that they are "in the know" and bigger than the club is not a good position. Lust seem to like the sound of their own voices and the publicity.
ps.did you see that West Ham spent 4.3 million on agents fees last year?
Finally A post I agree with.
LUST are a self important bunch of idiots that represent a small minority of the clubs fan base.
Couldn't agree more, LUST seem to be all chat. At the end of the day there isn't anything to suggest they know anything more than any other Whites fans. To be honest, I wish the trust would just keep quiet as all they are achieving is confusion and negativity going into the new season, which, to be honest, is pretty crucial one for us!
Actually just got through one of yr posts without feeling sorry for u or wanting to kill u. made pretty good read if not a little far fetched.
I'm sure the truth will emerge and I'm sure it will be fairly simple but stand by for a flood of normally well deserved abuse heading yr way.
and...... yr still a Muppet! MOT!
Well put view from the outside.
Chris. Lufc
Two identical posts from different authors? Have LUST commissioned them / scripted them? Just a thought!
Decent comments and you ask the same questions many Leeds fans would like answered. Given that Bates has shunned LUST how do they get this information?
Always said this takeover talk was bollocks and a way to boost flagging season ticket sales and no surprise it collapsed the week we start our season.
Another season of watching dross again.
Leeds fan of 40 years
Was getting ready to roll my eyes at yet another damp squib of an attempt to troll Leeds fans but was honestly impressed by a well written and considered piece of blogging that poses a few quality questions about LUST's behaviour during this protracted nightmare of a takeover.
Bravo Hammersfan!
Now if you can only stop with the constant WUM'ING! :)
Was Gary Cooper still banging on about high noon? He's unbelievable...
You idiot
Hear hear, totally agree! I am a Leeds fan since 1969 and sad to say 'jobs for the old boys' never got us anywhere but this debarcle is the other end of the spectrum. We have a chairman who obviously wants to see us fail on the pitch but is still convinced LUFC is worth considerably more than is being offered. Take the offer Bates and back off then hopefully Lust will shut up too!!
Good post and it puts a much more positive spin on things.
I understand Bates wants to stay on as Chairman and that has always been a problem with this bid. Hopefully the deal can still go through and Bates will realise he's not wanted and won't be needed again until the Xmas party!
Your opinion on LUST, Bates and all things related to Leeds is of no importance. You claim to be a West Ham fan but are obviously just a Daily Mail journalist wannabe.
Can you just clarify if you are suggesting that LUST are taking bribes from the potential investors? Hopefully they might read this blog and sue you for libel and get this pathetic blog shut down.
Michael Benjamin is clearly Brian's dad but cant remember anything for more than a few seconds :-)
Good post mammerfan
Mikelufc
Valid points made, agreeing with your post for once. Still think your a closet Leeds fan!. MOT
Knobend. 'Brians Dad' I'm guessing is not his real name, perhaps Michael Benjamin is ?
Fact is, you have no idea what is going on, you are just trolling away, pandering to the masses of non-plussed whites fans, like myself.
I too noticed the same posts, makes you wonder if, as you say these posts are from LUST,it would not suprise me at all.Going back to your post I always enjoy reading them and think you make good valid points,not all the time but this time I think your spot on.
By ther way, I am British Soldier, and I think you are sad and misguided.
Hope this comment means a lot to you.
non-plussed????
try nonplussed
mikelufc
hammersfan may be trolling away but it is more interesting than most we read about LUFC especially the wasters at LUST.
MikeLufc
Perhaps Brian's dad cant string a sentence together so just liked MB's so much he copied and pasted it?
Mikelufc
It always amuses me both your obsession and the way that fellow Leeds fans bite....
I think many share your comments re LUST and I have to agree that yet AGAIN they are guilty of putting their own publicity above the best interest of LUFC.
Keep up the bloggs, as for the abusive replies...You are the people that are feeding this site, if you don't like it, don't read it.
IMHO, LUST didn't have a clue about what was going on with the takeover. Only the day before they were demanding information from the club or the investors. Maybe the 'announcement' was just a calculated bit of propaganda to force a response, which actually worked. But they still know F all.
From a life long Leeds fan and blower of bubbles from my arse.
I have shaken my head and yes I am awake and you see? You can write a meaningful post when you want and you are asking the questions that us Leeds fans would like answering.
Interesting article, I can see what you're trying to do here HF. Only trouble is HF people won't remember you for this article as yesterdays will be fresh in the mind should the takerover happen. I appreciate it was only spur of the moment but a little foolish to say the least.
That said it was only ever banter on my part anyway. On the brightside if a taekover doesnt happen then at least we'll get to beat you again 2013/14.
Wow! The first time I agree with you. LUST don't have a clue what is going on and are getting very boring. I'll be so glad when the footy starts. Like the Olympics once it got going all the negative shite stopped. MOT
well what do you know an interesting balanced article, the sun even shines on a dogs arse some days,
back to the usual ill informed tripe tomorrow i bet!
well done on this one though!
I don't think LUST had a clue about what stage the takeover was at. Only the day before they were demanding information, so maybe their 'announcement' was aimed at getting a response, which appears to have worked.
From a lifelong Leeds fan and professional blower of bubbles from my arse.
I find it laughable that people on here are questioning LUST, I really do. Not one of you have a clue what is going on and it's as well you don't.
If the Leeds fans on this blog are questioning their motives then I suggest you go support another club. They are representing the fans, they can't tell us everything as they don't want to scupper the deal which is in a precarious position. It's all going to come out, every detail, but you will have to be patient. We are skint and have mortgaged off our season ticket money. We have spent £7m on the ground, £3m on court cases and £m? on other non essential parts of the club like bars and conference centres whilst spending nothing on the team. Our 14th placed position was a result of this failed business plan by Bates, and to defend him is a joke.
Yesterdays shenanigans was brinksmanship. LUST will have released information to force the clubs hand or because the deal was genuinely finished. They are not professionals, they are normal blokes doing an unenviable job just remember that. Anyone who thinks they are not connected to people involved in this deal couldn't be more wrong.
As for you Hammersfan, your writing style is superb and genuinely engaging. But this obsession with Leeds is incredibly sad. Honestly why don't you concentrate on your own club. A post a week about us I can stomach, but daily and sometimes twice daily posts about a club you don't support just to see the reactions of Leeds fans is pathetic. You and your fellow hammers can sit there giggling like children at the reaction of us Leeds fans but just remember one thing. You will never be as big a draw as us.
after all your bollocks from the past week this is a decent post. i personally dont fully read into what lust says. the club will reveal all in due course.i dont need a group of self appointed guess men claiming to 'know people' to plug the gaps between actual news.
After many blogs written with a anti-northern slant, mainly to stir a reaction, successfully I may add, at last a well written, though provoking blog. I agree LUST are a self appointed, un elected group that seem to be planning some sort of coup de tat. I for one am fed up with their negative spin and self congratulatory attitude. As HF said would a positive spin be more helpful, yes for sure. A negative spin, spouting and vitriol will only cause problems attracting investment and cause attrition between fans. A Society voted in by the fans for the fans is fine, an elected committee who are accountable to the fans fine, a society passionate about the club fine. LUST I am afraid are none of these. Believe me I hate Bates with a heat of a thousand suns, but LUST are just as bad and really on closer inspection
have many similar characteristics as him.
Well well, imagine that, a bit of thought and no rubbishing of the Whites, see how long you can keep it up. Still I would dearly love to know why you are so interested in Leeds, you've even trolled the YEP, I mean come on. Anyway I was expecting to mouth off when i saw this on newsnow but what a bugger I can't. You're still a prick though.Have a nice day hammersfanny.
Haha, I've just realised who you are hammersfanny, you're bloody Ken Bates, its just come to me, you have to be, you call us all sorts of names, rubbish Leeds utd, then inform us LUST have ulterior motives. you have to be Ken Bates because you just sound like him, he does things like that. Anyway Ken lad sell up and sod off. have a nice day.
"Anybody could have done the sums and worked out that the exclusivity period expired yesterday; dear God, even this Southern twat posted the day before that the deal had hit an impasse and what do I know"
Bravo Captain Hindsight. You have now expressed three different opinions on this matter over two days. I bow to your clearly superior intellect. Pray tell us when the proposed take over will take place and by whom. Maybe your Nemmesis, captain Foresight, will be able to assist you oh clever one - that is if your relationship is not, in any way internecine.
Hay ho. Back to the Hamlet then is it Hammersfan or maybe an episode of Only Fools and Horses perhaps, "Divide and rule Rodney, Divide and Rule".
must be the first time youve written something remotely sensible.you sure youre not a leeds fan?
12.09, I think if you read again he has a disclaimer in there, 'not making allegations, just asking the question' I actually totally agree with this blog. I have no opinion usually re: LUST, however this tub thumping, rabble rousing reaction from them 2 days from effectively the start of the season will do no good what so ever. Neither will a boycott. I firmly believe the takeover is not dead, just somebody along the line needs a kick up the arse. (look if you don't hurry up and get your cheque book out we will offer it out elsewhere). And for all the abusers of this blog, we live in a society that cherishes free speech, HF doesn't make you read it, by now you must know what the content is gonna be!! Simply don't read it if easily wound up!! MOT
I think it states clearly that he is making no allegations.
Hammersfan,your Blog here is virtually my exact comments made at 0448 on your last Leeds Takeover Blog.
On that ocassion it didn't even merit a response from you, but now you have happily plagerised my whole feedback.
Shame on you, you grotty little oink!
Wow you have written an article which i actually agree with!
Have had a lot of reservations about LUST and their motives for a long time. Especially that fat idiot Cooper the self appointed god on anything Leeds.
Fact is the whole debacle was started by them breaking the news in the first place.
The club would have been perfectly happy to do their business in private only making an announcement if and when a deal was finalised. If no one had known no one would be bothered about things falling through(possibly).
But no they wet their pants at the possibility of Santa going and raised hopes far too early. Now there is going to be open warfare again at Leeds. Right on the eve of a new season! Great top job LUST well done.
Wouldn't mind so much if he even bothered turning up to games once in a while! Something he didn't do that much even before Evil Santa banned him.
I on the other hand will be there with my season ticket and proud to do so i might add. Strangely looking forward to it too and strangely optimistic. How mad am i?
Win lose or draw. Promotion relegation or nothing no matter what division forever white.
dont worry leeds fans, this twat had a hardon for qpr last season until he was made to look the cock he is by us staying up..next season when his shit team are sent back down and might have to play leeds again,he will probably move on to some other team.. he really is a massive virgin who no doubt lives at home with his mummy,sitting in his spunk infested bedroom laughing at his own shitty blogs.inbetween looking up pictures of wimmin sucking on horses dicks while wanking into a west ham sock
If take over happens I hope lufc keep out of it if take over doesn't happen someone will buy Leeds bates wants to get out he is too old and knows leeds will be a big club again soon with investment At his time of life he should get out from an investors point it must be a mine field sorting out kens web of who owns what best thing we can hope for is a big wave goodbye from ken sooner rather than latter ps your still a gimp
I notice my comment wasn't posted you coward.
Watch this and belt up in future.
http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2012-08-10/leeds-united-supporters-trust-speak-about-the-clubs-future/
Ha! Gary Cooper now saying in interview with TSS, deal may be still on. What a cretin.
Serious a case of back peddling. If anyone believes anything he says they need there heads looking at.
Forever White.
You must have used the F or C word then 1907, or made explicit sexual references. I will check SPAM in case it routed there.
Now then 14:08, don't hide know this is a typical LUST propaganda statement. Don't try and make out you are in the KNOW after your ridiculous contradictory statements released over the last 24 hours.
Me and all the other season ticket holders i know think you are a set of incompetent idiots!
As for go and support another club! You make me sick! Makes you sound like Evil Santa himself you self serving pie eating nonce.
Try going to a few games before shooting your mouth of you cretinous prick!
Forever White
I'd just like t say that Hammers Fan is a total knob jockey and I despise him for everything he is and everything he stands for. Grrrrrrrrr.
(Weird, I know, but in-keeping with the turnabout responses from the Leeds fans on this thread, wouldn't you say?)
Get a fcuking grip ffs ! ......lust aint the problem .....ffs ! U call your self the yra , but all you do is slag lust off:'( ....there the voice of lots off leeds fans.....if u disagre....you av all just fallen to bates divide and conquer ffs .....get a grip leeds fans .....left side of ER ;)
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