Roll the clock back a few weeks and Savage was bloody rude to a West Ham fan who rang up 606 complaining about Allardyce's tactics. According to Savage, the guy didn't know what he was talking about. West Ham were in second place in the table and Savage demanded to know if the poor sod on the phone would be unhappy with getting promoted to the Prem. The fan tried to explain that we wouldn't get promoted if we kept playing poorly, but Savage would have none of it.
Well now he has backtracked amazingly. Suddenly, the boot is on the other foot and the Welsh Windbag is predicting that we will miss out on promotion. What a difference a few weeks makes! Perhaps Savage should step down from 606 and hand his salary over to the Hammer who he sought to humiliate on the airwaves.
Of course Savage sticks up for Sam and calls the negative reaction of the fans to his tactics "nonsense". According to Robbie, "Sam" is "doing a great job" even though he thinks we will "blow it" and miss out on promotion. He talks about our third place in the table as if this is something we should be pleased about, completely overlooking the fact that we have the highest wage bill in the division.
Savage goes on to rubbish the idea that West Ham played the beautiful game before Allardyce arrived and again misses the point totally. It's true that we were not able to play like Arsenal or Barcelona, but there is a middle ground between total football and total shite!
I quite like Savage but he is way off beam here. And for the record, I fancy us to finish above Reading so call him wrong there too!
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Anony-mouse says
Well I'm away for a day and what happens- a knicker wetting festival, obvious homophobia aimed at Dale, a claim from one of your soul-mates that Zola or Grant would have got us out of this league and now this.
You've having a go at Savage for 'back-tracking amazingly' when you have just done the same thing. Last week, you had Reading and Saints down for automatic promotion. Now you have us to finish above Reading. So what's the difference between you and Lily?
If you had credibility before it's long gone.
Now let's see where we are with you- you have us to finish above Reading- so I presume that means you think we'll finish top two- tell me if I'm wrong. And you still want Allardyce sacked? Have I got that right? It sounds mad to me but what do I know- I'm just a man, who unlike you doesn't blow in the wind- and not just cos I'm a fat b*stard.
Deflect as much as you want but just confirm to me that your current position is that Allardyce has us on track for promotion and you want him sacked now.
West Ham played the beautiful game - when was that, or rather, how many decades ago ? A few time under Pardew
- maybe, but not really that 'beauitiful' at all.
Yes. Except we are not on track for promotion. I'm still sticking by what I wrote after the Blackpool game. I think Reading will blow it, not that we will win it.
Can I just debunk yet again this myth about Pardew. In his first year in charge (OK he missed the first 8-10 games - when we were joint top) we finshed 4th. In his first full year, with the best squad, we somehow managed to fluke 6th place having been totally crap all season. So, his sum total of his career until he joined Newcastle was one good season and an FA cup final. Charlton he relegated, Southampton he left stuck in League 1 (and look how they are going now) and Newcastle, fair enough, going well - but I wonder how long that will last. Lets face it, the last decent manager we had was Rednapp (with Brooking getting a very honourable mention for his spell as cartaker). And will you two (HF and Anony-mouse) please just sleep with eachother and get it over with. It's clear you have the hots for one another!
Anony-mouse says,
Man, what a pathetically weak response. Your'e really, really struggling now HF. And frankly, it's a tad embarrassing to see the position that you've put yourself into.
Your response was a rubbish attempt at trying to brazen it out- cos you're sticking to nothing apart from your bed-sheets. Well after the Blackpool game you said Saints and Reading would go up as the top two. Now you're saying it'll be us, rather than Reading. To have stuck to your predictions after the Blackpool game you'd have had to maintain them constantly, but you didn't - so you are merely changing your mind again (a la Savage). So I repeat - you've slagging off Savage for what you youself are doing. Hmmm- awkward.
I now confidently expect an article by yourself in the same tone as the Savage one, but directed at your good self. The other day I called you Mr Inconsistent after you changed your mind about who's going up and whether or not to sack Allardyce, Prove me wrong- show me you can be consistent. Write that article about yourself now.
Hammers and Saints deserve to go up, they have been up there the whole season to be shot at. Have seen high lights of Readings games during their run ( the football league show loves them ) and they've had a mixture of incredible luck and good goal keeping to keep them in some of those games. I think Hammers have the strongest squad in the division and if they can keep all eleven players on the park will have too much for Reading on Saturday.
Girls girls now stop your bickering westham will go up celebrate it because next season is going to be miserable if you think it was bad for rangers I can only pray for westham enjoy it why it lasts fellas
After the Blackpool game I said we we assured promotion if we maintained mid table form Anony-Mouse; get your facts right!
Now why do I fancy us to finish above Reading? Because I have a hunch about Saturday and because Reading, like us, do not score enough goals. I suspect they will lose at Southampton and Birmingham and that if we beat them on Saturday, we will cobble together enough points to stagger over the finishing line in second place. But if we go up, it will be because Reading started the season so badly. If we don't, it will be because we gave them the confidence to go on a fantastic run by losing 3-0 on their dung heap. If we can't beat them on Saturday, we definitely don't deserve to go up; but my issue with Allardyce is that we don't deserve to go up anyway! If e make it, it will be by default - down to the weaknesses of others rather than our own strength.
Anony-mouse says,
I got my facts right HF- it's just that you are not acknowledging that less than two weeks ago you had Reading and not us down for automatic promotion. Anyway, enough- I'm boring myself (and others- apologies). And there's no point in continuing as you haven't got it in you to admit you're wrong even when the proof is in your own words on previous threads.
Clez- Good post until the very last line. Now I know me and HF bicker, but you'll have to trust me on this, its definitely not sexual tension. Certainly not on my part anyway, and I dare say not on HF's either. I'm sure he'll say if I've got that last bit wrong.
So night night, and don't worry HF and your fellow travellers who I make no apologies to for annoying like f*ck whilst defending the team I love- I'm only on this panicky, knee jerk site til the season's end. So just persevere and I'll leave you in peace to continue with your perpetual whinging and moaning :)
It is you who is not admitting to being wrong. After the Blackpool game I posted that it was virtually impossible for us to miss out on promotion. It was that thread that you objected to, claiming I was setting Allardyce up for a fall. Agree?
Anony-mouse says
Yes I agree. You did post that after the Blackpool game, and I did object then and I stand by my objections as per our discussion the other night.
However since the Blackpool game, in fact only 12 days ago on 17th March on a thread that's title started ' Sitting in Third...' I asked you a straight question about who you thought would go up automatically. Your verbaim answer, at 18.28 was 'Reading and Southampton. They can score, we can't!'
So HF, stop pretending/ inferring that your position that West Ham would go up has been the same since the Blackpool game, because it hasn't. You've changed your mind twice since then. Your prerogative of course- but it just shows your certainties are anything but, and today's discussion proves you're too insecure to admit it.
None of this surprises me from a man who thinks Allardyce's team will finish above Reading but still wants him sacked. Victor Meldrew had a word for it.
Look up your 17th March response if you must and then go howl at the moon if you want to cos you'll get no further response from me on this one.
PS- ever seen Vicki Pollard try to argue back when she's been caught bang to rights about something. I don't know what bought that to mind :)
Anonymouse, I was simply correcting your comment regarding the Blackpool game. I am happy to admit that I nominated Southampton and Reading recently. I may well be nominating them again at 5pm on Saturday, though I hope not! The point you seem to be missing is that after the Blackpool game we were at the elbow with Reading still leaping the last fence. Now I know Red Rum chased down Crisp but he wasn't as far adrift as Reading were after that Blackpool game. Had we won against Watdord and Doncaster at home (never mind Boro and Palace) we would have had one foot in the prem at the moment. But Allardyce played long ball and set up conservatively - the very thing that I have objected to consistently all season.
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