Tell me, what's worse? Cole faces an FA charge for a joke on Twitter. Gabbidon may well follow for an F word ranting Tweet. And yet on Saturday, there was da Costa, playing with total impunity, a couple of days ahead of a hearing regarding allegations of sexual and physical abuse of a woman - and da Costa isn't denying the latter charge! Meanwhile Rooney sat out an FA Cup semifinal for an F word rant.
And it gets worse! Apparently, Keane could be in breach of contract for hopping on a motor bike; interestingly, that is forbidden specifically, whilst going to a nightclub, getting tanked up and lamping a woman isn't seemingly. Confused values perhaps?
But put all this to one side and ask yourself, what sense was there in picking da Costa whilst all this was going on? Would it be surprising if his concentration and focus were not one hundred percent in the circumstances? He should not be allowed anywhere near a football pitch until he has been sentenced in my opinion - for moral and ethical reasons and from the point of view that he is unlikely to be mentally attuned to the game he is involved in.
And finally, the incident again highlights everything that is wrong at West Ham. Down the years Faces has been a favoured haunt and Essex girls flock there looking to lay a player. Is it any wonder that things go wrong when the club don't even employ a couple of minders at the club to keep an eye on what is going on? Another example of crass stupidity in my book.
So Rooney scores and swears; and is banned. da Costa doesn't score and assaults a woman; and isn't. The game has gone crazy again!
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HF, Do we actaully know what it is that DaCosta has done to this woman? He could have punched her, slapped her, or he could have even just pushed her away. Even a push can be determined in law as assault. As soon as you place your hands on someone without them wanting it, it can be classed assault by the Police/CPS. Before we start laying into him we do not know the circumstances involved. This woman could have been drunk and trying to persue him. He could have been just pushing her away and she falls over. However, if he has blatently slapped/hit her then throw the book at him... Put him on the bench and tell him he's being sold when the window opens (not that I don't think hes gonna leave anyway). We still see this thing of a man hitting a woman as wrong, but it's OK the other way round. We think the bloke deserves being hit and nothing more is said. What would you be saying if it were the other way round and Dacosta was having this woman up in court. I bet you'd be saying he is a pansie or something. It's still abuse, it's just as bad, but we see differently. Any sort of physical abuse should be seen and delt with in the same way...
Further to my other post, I've been doing a bit of reading about Common Assault. You can actually be had up on a common assault charge by merely raising your hand to another person. If this person feels that they are about to be attacked (they might not even hit them). They can still report you to the Police who can arrest you on a common assault charge... So we can't really say anything regarding this until we actually hear what it is that he has done to this woman. I'm not condoning his actions. Merely lets look at whats happened first. Then we can either let rip at him for his off-field actions, or his actions on the field... ;)
So you want West Ham to employ doormen at Faces? What an absolute barmy idea. What if some other players go to different nightclubs? should West ham employ doormen there too? I once saw a punch up at Sainsbury's - shall we employ doormen at every branch to protect the players if they shop there?
Comparing Rooneys offence to Da Costa's is also totally wrong as they are different offences with different punishments IF found guilty. Rooney served a 2 match ban but De Costa may go to prison.
Well, I think you also have to put the incidents into perspective. Being a professional football player is just an incredibly well paid job. If you're getting sued your normal life still goes on, you have to work, pay your taxes etc. If you're found guitly that might change but until that day your life is the same as it was before - of course that depends on the degree of your crime and the suspicion. In Rooneys case it was quite simple, most of the viewer saw and heared the incident. The suspicion is clear so he gets charged immediately.
It's obvious that you can't compare the two incidents because in Da Costa's case it was not just an abuse on tv. It's inevitably that the court makes no mistake in such an issue.
Hammered, too right I would. da Costa is well over six feet tall and male; it's like an alsation taking on a poodle. Raising a hand to a woman is cowardly and indefensible unless she is coming at you with a knife or a hammer; simple in my book!
Yes, I would employ "protection officers" at Faces personally. And I would have HUGE penalty clauses in the players' contracts that would cover the cost very quickly if they misbehaved in Faces or elsewhere.
Its not like an alsation taking on a poodle HF. I had a Standard Poodle years ago and it could more than hold its own against Alsations,Dobermans, Rottweilers or whatever. For some reason other dogs always wanted to attack him at their perril.
Has Mary Whitehouse finally censored the beeb..lol..
I didn't mean a standard bloody poodle, I meant one of those things that women carry around in their shoulder bags!
And yes Isaac, the bbc is being censored for no good reason. I reckon Nev should be renamed Gadaffi!
John, I hope you're talking about a dog there and not your ex lol!
HF, It's about jurisdiction though right?
Bringing the game / company into disrepute is a catch all Stani. It is a feature of most employment contracts these days.
So it is the club that should do something right? Maybe theyll do something when the legal stuff's concluded.
No, Game Into Disrepute is for FA / Premier League to take action. They can take action for swearing but not for assaulting a woman. Crazy n'est pas?
Unless of course Sharia Law applies ; } Sorry, couldn't resist! However, in the light of the death threats being made to Muslim women refusing to wear the scarf in Tower Hamlets, perhaps it isn't an absurd example to quote. Disgraceful eh mate?
I didnt hear of it. Men will be men though hey? Dicks.
Then qualify it HF 'miniature poodle'You are obviously not a dog man
No Stani, it had four legs and a tail plus a set of teeth that put my own to shame. Come to think of it though it did have an undemanding affection for me that I have not, unfortunately, experienced in human beings.
True. Did Julian lamp a woman too?
John, it sounds to me as if you have issues about this poodle. Lots of piss taking before mates realised it was a standard? Actually, some friends have a retroodle, bloody great big thing that goes mad when it sees a deer and has killed a couple.
Terrible HF. No, he threatened women who refused to wear a scarf! lol
HF, The problem is that Common assault can mean virtually anything. The list goes on and on, most Police officers call it a minor offence which is normally delt with there and then. It normally only gets to the CPS if either the force is excessive (then it's called common assault/battery) or if the other person insists on wanting to take the matter further, which could be the case seeing as Dacosta would make a high profile case. We are still yet to find out exactly what he has done. But she has obviously filed two different complaints against him. A common assault charge and a sexual assault charge. If he has pushed her or raised a hand or hit her then it looks like he's been told to admit this charge, but he's defending against the other sexual one. This could be just another case of a woman scorned. We just don't know at the moment. We have yet to hear from this woman as well, which could mean that she has been gagged until the court case...
I'm gonna start a petition to reinstate BBC, I think it's bloody stupid, ridiculous!!!
I think a petition would be the way forward, you never know, he might ban all of us that endorse it, haha
Good luck Pete. I don't think it will be well received. He is a bitter man.
LOL Stani
All very true Hammered. And he may have been on crutches to try to get some sympathy!
Hammered, perhaps he pushed her away by the titty. That could be deemed as sexual and physical abuse. It would explain why he is fighting one and not the other.
I asked the question & he has opened the gate,
Welcome back, :)
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