Well how easy was that then? I predicted some time ago that 34 points would be enough to survive and so it has proved. I suspect we will now finish at least 5 points clear of the drop so that, in years to come, people looking at the final table will have no idea of the stress we have suffered. It is somehow appropriate that our survival was confirmed when we weren’t actually playing. Because let’s face it, we will be in the Prem next season due to the incompetence of others rather than because of our own efforts and ability.
Burnley duly caved in against Liverpool according to the script. First half, they acquitted themselves well and were unlucky not to go in ahead. But second half? Well Laws had given them a half time team talk!
The demise of Burnley was great news for us but, leaving aside parochial concerns, was sad. Their victory over Manchester United in the second game of the season will live long in the memory of Clarets fans, as will that epic game at Manchester City and their spirited hammering of Hull. Burnley, quite simply, were never good enough for the Prem, but they were well and truly buggered by the defection of Coyle to Bolton. I dearly hope Mr Coyle comes a cropper next season; I would love it, really love it, if Bolton went down. Betrayal merits painful retribution in my book! Our 2-1 defeat to Burnley under Laws says everything about the depths we have plumbed this season under Zola. Who scored our goal? Ilan wasn’t it? Has anybody yet worked out why our tactical mastermind Zola then preferred Mido to the Brazilian until that crucial goal at Everton?
Hull’s relegation was nailed on at the start of the season. The fact that we have been worried for so long that they might survive at our expense is further proof of how bad we are! How, on earth, did we let them come back from two goals down to lead us at the KC? Crikey, but for a sending off, we might have lost that game! Give them 2 more points and shave one off us, and we would only be three points ahead of them at the moment! I would say it would then be all to play for, but Hull could probably play until Christmas without winning another game. The appointment of Dowie was classic. Who relegated Newcastle last season? Shearer and Dowie! Shearer’s not available, so just get Dowie. Pearson had arrived back like a returning Messiah – just like Shearer at Newcastle when you come to think of it!
As for Pompey, well a lot of credit for our survival may be due to ‘Arry! You have to feel for the poor Pompey fans who, in classic fashion, were conned into mortgaging their home to pay for a Pyramid style ‘Arry con. I understand the argument that Pompey have deserved to come a cropper but we are in no position to chuck stones ourselves, given our house of glass. Of all the teams at the bottom, Pompey have played with the most passion and pride since their Administration was confirmed. Grant deserves huge credit for this and surely the whole nation will be cheering on the ex Chelsea man and his patched up team in the Cup Final. The elimination of Tottenham was great fun to watch: how fantastic would it be if they turned over the Plastics?
So, we are safe; but so what? Now the dust has settled, you have to marvel at how we ever got into such a mess in the first place. To finish below any of Pompey, Hull or Burnley would be the equivalent of finishing second to Dowie in a beauty contest!
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You predicted it? well why have you been bleating on and on and on? if you knew we were going to stay up then it seems rather sadistic of you to want to inflict so much pain and suffering on the rest of us. I suspect personally that you're masochistic and enjoy suffering - because whenever you had a choice between being positive or negative you without fail grab negativity with both hands!
"Betrayal merits painful retribution in my book!"
I do hope that's true because in my book you betrayed West Ham, along with the fans countless times this season.
the truth ain't betrayal and the truth hurts, doesn't make it wrong or unjustified just unpleasant
We are safe thanks to others. Totally true HF and we should guard against complacency. Imagine, we went down with 42 points and while we were playing much better football than we did this year. Next year it will be tough with Newcastle and West Brom up. So we really need to get our act together (and of course say goodbye to GZ).
Just in case you started thinking HF that I don't agree with you any more!
All true, but what happens now? a new manager? who? which players go, and who do we bring in? Will more investor's invest now we are staying in the premiership? Hope so. Plenty to dscuss and argue about between now and next August COY must be easy to improve next season on this.
thought you predicted relegation
HF predicited we would go down and stay up so he covered all bases so he could say told you so.
O per-lease HF! I wish you would stop using that 'we stayed up because of others' argument as I'm sure you're not so simple minded. So we did nothing all season then did we? Chelsea gonna win the title because of Man Utd and Arsenal and not because of themselves right? How stupid were Pompey, Hull and Burnley? They should have just done nothing like us, and they could have stayed up too. It's easy this staying in the premiership, you just leave it to others.
Gold wants Zola to stay, WTF! Typical West Ham letting us down again. If Zola stays we will be relegated next season. What is it with this guy Zola, the worst winning percentage of ALL West Ham managers in our history..FACT!! He has to go!!
The worst squad of players in West Ham's premier league history and he still kept us up. Another FACT
...and the worst off-field problems, and he still kept us up. Nearly forgot that FACT
Bring on Nigel Pearson and Peter Reid though, the grass can only get greener!
Verily, man is always ungrateful.
0826, 1301 & 1421, I predicted neither that we would go down, nor that we would stay up. I predicted that we would STRUGGLE to stay up which means that it could go either way, and I predicted that last August. I did predict, some weeks back, that 34 points (and maybe even 33) would be enough to stay up. Recently, I have got twitchy, being, I admit, a natural pessimist after supporting West Ham through 40 years of "If it can go wrong, it will go wrong" torture. Bloody hell, even in the Cup Final, with a minute to play and 3-2 up against Liverpool, we manage to find the one sporting Argentinian footballer on the planet, so giving Gerrard that chance to equalise.
What some of you guys find difficult to cope with is that my "negativity" has been proved right for the vast majority of the time. That means it is not negativity, it is reality. Is the glass half full or half empty? Who cares, what matters is what is in the glass. Half a pint of lager? Great! Half a pint of steaming piss! No thanks! My biggest mistake was welcoming the appointment of Zola. That was stupid - with hindsight.
Allegations of being a traitor are, of course, absurd. I have never cheered for the opposition and never could. Everything I say is with West Ham's best interests in mind. As Deane says though, the truth often hurts. The Three Monkeys fans don't want to see, hear or speak any evil; but all the fans around me in Upton Park on Saturday were united in the view that Zola is a tactical numpty! It said it all that, at the end, we were singing, "One Iain Dowie, there's only one Iain Dowie"; not a very ringing endorsement of Zola!
Don't you per-lease me Stani. We are safe on the LOWEST number of points ever secured by a team surviving in the Prem. That means that, in any other year, we would have gone done if we lose our last two games. Zola has not kept us up. Our players have not kept us up. Dowie, Coyle (by betraying Burnley), Laws and Al Faraj have kept us up. How can you credit Zola when he has not yet secured enough points to keep us in the Prem in any previous season? getting to
The season's not over yet HF. Fulham are looking knackered after their European exploits and City have had a tough run in.
With the pressure off the players now, they can be a bit more open and creative on the pitch.
We could end up on 40 points. Would that still be the lowest ever points tally for a surviving team?
Nope it would not! Hopefully that will happen but Fulham's reserves were unlucky at Everton and Unreal City will need the points. There is no way our performances will improve. It's not the pressure that has been holding us back, it is incompetent management.
you seem to be left out of the news now strand. shame. not!!!!!
childish? yes!!!!
Funny, I am still on the News Now "strand". Shame!
Just a little FYI, but.....
Another team survived on 34pts in the not too distant past. Bit of research please before you're usual 'I'm the Messiah' $hit.
Very naughty boy!!!
Yep. West Brom survived on 34 points!
See Bigboy, that's another thing you're doing.
There are too many variables to accurately compare one season's points tally to the next and you know this. Also, the premier league season is not about one team or one team's games. It has 20 teams, who each play 38 games. Therefore, we have to see this as a whole. You know this also. Our league position and points tally is in relation to other teams during THIS season and has nothing to do with any other season. Hence, if we had 10 less points than season X, it wouldn't matter because we could still finish higher in the table.
I know it's easier to get the support of people who don't actually develop their thoughts, and sometimes I think this is exactly what you aim for. Then you sit back and laugh at them even though they agree with something you wrote but most likely don't actually believe yourself. You're evil HF and God is watching :)
there are obviously more who feel the same way as you hf well everybody I go with sorry bar 1 and how bout this http://westhamprocess.com/2010/04/27/were-not-going-down-but-will-sugo-take-us-forward/
May I ask what happened to West Brom the season after they survived with 34 points, the lowest total any team has ever survived with in the prem as I rightly said - their 34 points doesn't mean our 34 points isn't also the lowest - erm, they were relegated. And did they change their manager after the season they finished on 34 points and gloried in survival? No, they waited until they went down didn't they? Lesson to be learned anybody?
How can God watch me if he doesn't exist Stani?
You may, but that was them and that was then.
Of course he exists HF, the second law of thermodynamics says so. Plus, we're human, needy creatures. There will come a time when we will all call out to Him. It is in our nature whether we admit it or not. There are no atheists in foxholes.
The signs are clear for those that think and reflect. Of course, the pomp and glitter, the 9 to 5, 5 days a week of this life doesn't allow many of us to.
(By the way, I'm not mad :)...I know all mad people say this but I mean it. Am I making it worse? I'll shut up now, it's difficult enough typing wearing this straitjacket)
stani - you're a genius compared to hf's fence sitting - I predict we won't go down - we won't stay up, we'll just find if difficult BRAIN Surgeon
"The worst squad of players in West Ham's premier league history and he still kept us up. Another FACT
...and the worst off-field problems, and he still kept us up. Nearly forgot that FACT"
Zola Zola Zola!!!!!!
You're teasing me aren't you Anony?
;)
Worst squad in our PL history? Wow you have a short memory! Green, Cole, Upson, Behrami and Parker would all walk into any team outside the top 8. Diamanti, Faubert, Noble, Collison and Ilunga would get into any side in the next 8!
says worse squad of players in history - which I think you'll find is different proposition from the worse squad in history
They wouldn't for very long HF. As soon as the manager realises how shite they really are, they'd be gone.
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